I think, the form of the ruby was the greatest distinction that seperated the ruby and the scepter of fire.Orcs are united in this campaining and cooperating to get Ruby of Fire (this also shocked me, in Sceprer of Fire that was made before Legend of Wesmere is written that orcs and trolls living in Knalga didn't know what it means)
Except for the royalty, no one knows except for the few involved and eventually became a myth.
Though I don't buy it due to how powerful it is. (I guess the power is subdued or hidden due to it being processed as a scepter)
However this is quite biased to Orcs intelligence
https://wiki.wesnoth.org/CampaignDialog ... ialogue_13
... During that time, it sat in the caves of the Northlands, unfound but undestroyed, moved around by Orcs who never understood its true power.
In the past (maybe in the present too?), Kalenz lacked diplomacy, the elvish council before Kalenz, isn't better.As for civil war it looks like both sides had it's faults... (at the same time orcs are in civil war as well, ironic to see both races fighting and killing each other after both were so united before)
If we quote what happens on The Rise ot Wesnoth:
Scenario 18: A Spy in the Woods
Disclaimer: Dialog might be outdated.
From here on, it's more complicated, if we believe this statement from Haldric:Lord Aryad: We may have decided wrongly. If the humans drive the orcs off we should honor our pledge. If more trouble follows them here we should let them fight it out, then we should 'deal' with the survivors, and make a compromise with the Dwarves.
Lady Dionli: But we spoke a Pact with this Haldric and these men of the west-north...
Lord Logalmier: We are the people of the forest, you know that all words spoken to these un-people are of secondary importance to our own needs. As Lord Aryad said, 'If more trouble follows them here we should let them fight it out, then we should 'deal' with the survivors, and make a compromise with the Dwarves.'
Lord El'Isomithir: Agreed.
Lady Dionli: (Sigh) Agreed.
Lord Logalmier: Agreed.
From:
Campaign Dialogue:TROW#Greeting: No Quests Done
however,Prince Haldric: We only wish to live in peace. The dwarves are peoples of mountain and hill, the elves are people of the forests, we only seek some of the space in between.
From: Scenario 21: The Plan
I've skipped his other dialogs but he didn't persist on doing good because he knew of their plot.Prince Haldric: We're going to convince Jevyan that we gave the elves the Ruby of Fire to secure our place in this new land. Then if the orcs return, hopefully they'll go looking for our not-so-loyal elven allies first.
Lady Jessene: Haldric, that's devious. I kind of like this plan. But you spoke a pact with the elves. You'll be expected to come to their aid.
Prince Haldric: Yes, and we may come to their aid. We'll have to weigh our options when and if the time comes. If the orcs return in great numbers, the brunt of their assault must fall on somebody else or we will not survive it. Who knows, maybe I won't even come to their aid at all -
Lady Jessene: Many people would call you a coward if you did not. They would say that you turned your back on your pact with the elves. It's not like you can tell people what I overheard.
Prince Haldric: Recent events have taught me one thing: that survival trumps honor. Besides, they won't be screaming at me - I'll be dead.
Lady Jessene: WHAT!
Prince Haldric: I'll be dead. I mean we can't just say that we gave away the Ruby of Fire, or send Jevyan a letter. Well, we are going to say it - but that's not the point. Jessene, you're going to forge a very official looking treaty, in which we give the elves the Ruby of Fire, in return for our place here.
To cut the story short, they treated the alliance as non existent...
but,All Orcs Killed
Prince Haldric: The plan revolved around some orcs making it back to the Green Isle to tell their kin that the elves have the Ruby of Fire so we wouldn't have to bear the brunt of the next invasion.
Campaign Dialogue:TROW#Greeting: No Quests Done
also,Lady Dionli: I suggest that we grant these humans the plains to the north and south of the Great River.
Lord Aryad: They should be put to the test before such a grant is made.
Lord El'Isomithir: A quest for each of us then?
Lady Dionli: Agreed.
Lord Aryad: Agreed.
Lord Logalmier: Agreed. (Sigh)
Prince Haldric: Umm, agreed.
Lord Aryad: Well then, human. Each of us lords has a specific quest for you. If you complete them all you will be granted all of the plains in our domain and the hills south of the Great River, if not you will be forced to depart. So which quest do you wish to undertake first?
The problem:Lord El'Isomithir: So you come to steal our land? We know your kind, humans of the west-north.
Victory from fighting against the Dragon
https://wiki.wesnoth.org/CampaignDialog ... Defeated_5Prince Haldric: I'm glad that's over. The elves certainly aren't taking it easy on us. It's a miracle any of us are alive at all.
Prince Haldric: The trolls are beaten, but they were no easy opponents. It is no wonder why the elves pressed us to do their dirty work.
While it may not seem to be fair (debatable), this person agreed to do these things to have a share of their land.
The problem was, even if the elves have a bad plot, he didn't pursue and persist on peace.
Therefore, the plot of Legend of Wesmere came to be.
Saurian Empire destroyed, Elvish Council killed, Orcs seiged the land of the Elves, a banished friend, curses and more bloodshed after but why?
From: https://wiki.wesnoth.org/CampaignDialogue:TROW#Victory_4
Elilmaldur-Rithrandil: The lich was carrying a powerful artifact. We know, we can feel it. This artifact may aid you in your quest.
Lady Outlaw: He must mean the Ruby of Fire. It was our most powerful artifact. We brought it with us from the east. We thought it was lost in the war with your people, when Lich-Lord Lenvan fell!
I would cut the story there, the ruby seems to be special and coveted or not really special but coveted by many, due to the power it brings.
Disregarding the ruby plotline, Haldric is one of the main issues for Legend of Wesmere.
He, also didn't pick diplomacy or alliance.
Kalenz's.....
https://wiki.wesnoth.org/CampaignDialog ... _the_Front
Kalenz: We face a difficult choice. I know humans did not help us when the orcs attacked, but the orcs are everybody’s enemy. When humans fall, we’ll be next.
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